Eminem’s new Beyonce-featured track “Walk On Water” had everyone talking on social media on Friday (Nov. 10). On the Rick Rubin-produced song, the Detroit rhymer reflects on his fear of living up to his lyrical reputation.

On the debut episode of Rick Rubin and Malcolm Gladwell’s Broken Record podcast, Slim Shady was the program's first guest and he talked about the song and the message behind it.

“It’s a very moral song,” said Em (via Billboard). “It’s mortality, not being Superman and what if I can’t come up with the best shit I wrote every single time?”

Rubin also revealed that Em was frustrated with “mumble rap” and the state of lyricism in rap. "For him, [mumble rap] is a little bit of a culture shock because there’s a new wave of hip-hop that’s not really what he’s about," he said. "So he was just talking to me about how that felt. I could see he was frustrated by it."

Later in the show, Em cited his idol Tupac Shakur who he felt was very precise with his lyrics and made sure people interpret them in the right way.

"He always knew the right words to say on the right chords," he explained. "I studied that so much and he was so genius at doing it. He never said the wrong thing on the wrong chord."

"Go listen to 'Dear Mama,' every bar was so in place where it should be," he continued. "He was so smart about picking his beats. Tupac always said feel me and you have to feel him and not just hear him.”

You can listen to the Eminem interview on the Broken Record podcast for free on iTunes.

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